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riceroni
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Location: e5, ON Joined: 07.29.2009
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YESSss - Don'tForgetTocchet
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NOOOO! - riceroni
let me have my moment. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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But beyond what Cammalleri could've provided in his performance (he wasn't likely to be the difference last night with zero shots on goal, zero points, zero hits, zero blocked shots), what kind of distraction is it for the team to know a player was pulled off the bench and traded mid-game, in a league where that just never happens?
It wasn't a distraction, it was a relief. |
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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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But beyond what Cammalleri could've provided in his performance (he wasn't likely to be the difference last night with zero shots on goal, zero points, zero hits, zero blocked shots), what kind of distraction is it for the team to know a player was pulled off the bench and traded mid-game, in a league where that just never happens?
It wasn't a distraction, it was a relief. - Pecafan Fan
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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But beyond what Cammalleri could've provided in his performance (he wasn't likely to be the difference last night with zero shots on goal, zero points, zero hits, zero blocked shots), what kind of distraction is it for the team to know a player was pulled off the bench and traded mid-game, in a league where that just never happens?
It wasn't a distraction, it was a relief. - Pecafan Fan
this. |
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Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 08.09.2011
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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In the end, two struggling, enigmatic players were traded for one another. Rene Bourque has matched Cammalleri's goal production over the last three seasons (he's done marginally better, actually), but that speaks to his success as much as it does to his inconsistency.
And what does it say about Cammalleri?
Edit: I'll tell you what it says. He's an overrated, overpaid underachiever and a primadonna. |
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yemrots
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Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year Joined: 03.04.2008
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In the end, two struggling, enigmatic players were traded for one another. Rene Bourque has matched Cammalleri's goal production over the last three seasons (he's done marginally better, actually), but that speaks to his success as much as it does to his inconsistency.
And what does it say about Cammalleri? - Pecafan Fan
obviously being misused in a dysfunctional enviroment. |
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yemrots
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Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year Joined: 03.04.2008
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Anymore trades on the way? - Rtt19
HOW THE (frank) WOULD HE KNOW???? |
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Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 10.03.2005
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Anymore trades on the way? - Rtt19
absolutely, here's a list of players that are strong possibilities to move:
Weber
Diaz
Campoli
Gill
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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obviously being misused in a dysfunctional enviroment. - Cape Breton Bruins
Clearly. Can't be anything else, can it? |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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In the end, two struggling, enigmatic players were traded for one another. Rene Bourque has matched Cammalleri's goal production over the last three seasons (he's done marginally better, actually), but that speaks to his success as much as it does to his inconsistency.
And what does it say about Cammalleri?
Edit: I'll tell you what it says. He's an overrated, overpaid underachiever and a primadonna. - Pecafan Fan
At least Bourque can throw the odd hit when he is slumping. |
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Habs Talk
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obviously being misused in a dysfunctional enviroment. - Cape Breton Bruins
organizations take as much blame as players themselves... two-way street there |
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yemrots
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Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year Joined: 03.04.2008
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In the end, two struggling, enigmatic players were traded for one another. Rene Bourque has matched Cammalleri's goal production over the last three seasons (he's done marginally better, actually), but that speaks to his success as much as it does to his inconsistency.
And what does it say about Cammalleri?
Edit: I'll tell you what it says. He's an overrated, overpaid underachiever and a primadonna. - Pecafan Fan
or Calgary's system provides better numbers for offensive players. |
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habby
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev Joined: 08.31.2006
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It's amazing to think that Gauthier still has free reign to make deals, regardless of this one looking good.
Bourque is coming off a suspension and walking into an unmitigated disaster, under the pressure of having to live up to the expectation that he can provide what Cammalleri wasn't providing for far too long.
I don't agree with this, I think most fans understand Mtl didn't get a player with Cammi's potential output, regardless of the # over the last few years. But they got the type of player fans have been yelling for.
As for a rebuild like Chi or Pitt? It's easy for fans to say they wish Mtl would do it, but at the same time these fans are losing their minds over a half season of failure. People would tear the Bell centre down if this went on for a few seasons, regardless of the young talent they could get. |
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Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 08.09.2011
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absolutely, here's a list of players that are strong possibilities to move:
Weber
Diaz
Campoli
Gill
Moen - EricEngels
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Clearly. Can't be anything else, can it? - Pecafan Fan
It's certainly not a character issue. When, do players actually ever take blame? |
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Fredobface
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Pacioretty is a gamebreaker, you need guys like that -DD, QC Joined: 12.09.2008
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yemrots
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Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year Joined: 03.04.2008
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At least Bourque can throw the odd hit when he is slumping. - AdamFrench
Funny...last year I was told how physical Cammy was. |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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I like the new EE. - yemrots
3M's a good guy... he helps us see that whining isn't always wrong. |
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FuzE_gus
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.30.2008
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EE...well said. It's becoming harder and harder to whine and complain about the Habs. The painful reality of what is has set in. I've said for many years, regardless of the organisation, leadership and success is a culture. And that culture starts at the top. Not in the locker room. Not in the history books. At the top of an active, dynamic stack of people.
It's become clear that the culture of the Canadiens' organisation is rooted in history. They do things their way because history has given them license to. That history used to be a source of inspiration. "From failing hands.." Former players with numerous Cup rings sitting rinkside providing support for their younger brethren in pursuit of their own ring sizing. However, as time marches on, those former players enter the rink with walkers on special occasions. Or sit comfortably and quietly in their homes watching in disgust. That history is falling further and further away and the new regime artificially tattoo the CH logo on their chests ignorant of what it truly means.
Whether the Cammalleri trade was good or not is irrelevant. The transaction was forced through with an arrogance and cockiness not seen in winning organisations. It was forced through with ignorance and a feeling of self right that was not earned. And certainly does not nurture a sense of respect from peers on the ice, in the front offices or in the media.
The Habs of today are flawed from the top down. And unless Geoff Molson does something swiftly and positively, this team is doomed to mediocrity for years to come.
"To you from failing hands..." is starting to take on a new meaning with this team. "Failing", doesn't have such a nice ring to it anymore.
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